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unforgiven2 · Tenant

I read this and damn I must be sensitive it made me cry
The following "Ten Commandments for Dog Owners" were written from the perspective of a dog, and provide some good guidelines about your duties to your "best friend."
1. My life is likely to last 10-15 years. Any separation from you will be painful for me. Remember that before you get me.
2. Give me time to understand what you want from me.
3. Place your trust in me. It is crucial to my well-being.
4. Don't be angry with me for long, and don't lock me up as punishment. You have your work, entertainment and friends. I only have you.
5. Talk to me sometimes. Even if I don't understand your words, I understand your voice.
6. Be aware that however you treat me, I'll never forget it.
7. Please don't hit me. I can't hit back, but I can bite and scratch, and I really don't want to do that.
8. Before you scold me for being uncooperative, obstinate or lazy, ask yourself if something might be bothering me. I don't speak your language. Perhaps I'm not getting the right foods, or I've been out in the sun too long, or my heart is getting old and weak.
9. Take care of me when I get old. You will grow old, too. You'll hope someone cares.
10. Go with me on difficult journeys. Never say, "I can't bear to watch," or "let it happen in my absence". Everything is easier for me if you are there. Remember, I love you.

I will let you know what was the result in court.

I have mid terms coming up soon and have got to dive into the books more I thought I was going to have accounting but instead am taking philosopy the book is called Logic and Contemporary Rhetoric ans Internet Commerce both are time comsuming so I will be back later taking a time out.

OH yeah if I dont get the chance Happy Valentines day eat some chocolate for me and hope everyone has a valentine to spend with if not chocolate can be used as a substitute for the day.... with sometimes better rewards

pause4poetry · Moderator

Thanks for sharing those Steve, how true they are ...

I am going to print them and share them with my Dogs vet, he will love them !

Sounds like you are in for some eye strain over mid terms, you will need a break ... Shocked

Have you considered YOGA to relax ... Diane and Lucy have me thinking about it ...

Happy Valentines Day to you as well, but I bet we hear from you again before then....

Michelle

unforgiven2 · Tenant

Yes I needed to come back and say I really loved this woman I was dating always going to her yoga classes she taught me some things like this move where I had to balance on one foot with my leg crossed over and on my thigh it was real fun !!!! Pausefor poetry
She made me try out her gym for the day and I seen some of those positions they get in and I have never seen so many intristing stances. Well I joined her club 24 hour fitness because I was suckered in and all those women who motivate me to look my best mmmmhhmm.

Philosophy question

I have a crazed teacher Angry

who deems everything I answer needs an argument and she is just plain crazy but I am trying to learn from her. Don't see how I am always wrong she just happens to be bent on pushing me to an overexhasted sense of self
Have a Tea

QUESTION FOR EVERYONE AND ANYONE who may know the answer.

Old Wisdom

An Ad hominem abuse example can be subway versus quiznos in their ads right or wrong?
Dictionary: Ad hominem is as attack on one's opponent.
Well if anyone knows please fill me in I have never met such a argumentative person in my life. Fight

Too bad I won't need to know this info for my career but pay a very high price student loans and books and now I will need therapy for this crazed staff member I now have to put up with.

lucyb · Helping Hand I

Sorry Steve, I'm not sure about what this ad hom thing is. I would agree with you if with the definition given that the ad would be that.

Maybe your teacher has some sort of wacky strategy thing going on here, what class is this? She could just be a mean person who needs to take some yoga lessons tho.

Good luck with the class.

Lucy

PS Have you tried bring her an apple? Probably some chocolate would work even better.

unforgiven2 · Tenant

That is what I thought Lucy it makes sense....I am taking Philosophy and the book is Logic and Contemporary Rhetoric.
Very Good

Yoga could benefit her in more ways then one! I am totally with that idea I will sugest it to her along with all the ways we came up with to tackle stress. Might I add one more sex is great for stress and good for migraines women maybe suffering from.

I wish I had face to face contact I may be able to charm her into a smile by flirting. Give her the look or maybe give her a drink filled with a laxative so she will get off my last nerve.
Too bad online classes come with distance and overworked teachers who stay up grading fifty some students long reports.

pause4poetry · Moderator

Dear Steve, Not really familiar with the Subway, or quizno ads.

However my understanding of Ad hominem abuse would be saying something that does not truly state a reason why A is better then B, or why A does not agree with B but uses terms, slag and ideas to attempt to discredit the character of their oppenent, but what is presented is irrelevant in nature and lacks logic and reason to the statement made by the opponent.

Example: I make a statement to you that I think clear cutting is destroying our landscapes and jepordizing our wild life population.

Instead of countering me with a logical arguement you try to desicredit me (my character) by telling me that I would say that and my opinion should not count, because I live in a brick house and am nothing more then a tree hugging, narrow minded animal activist that could not state a logical opinion... there for you are attacking me, not logically attacking, or countering the claim that I have made ...

Hmmm you really should not be so abusive Rolling Eyes

... lol

I will start paying greater attention to the subway vs quizno ads from now on, I usually get up and attend to other things through the commercials .... lol

You know " a man may work from sun to sun,
but a woman's work is never done" ... lol

Was she asking for an example specifically in advertising ?

Maybe others that have seen the ad can provide you with greater assistance ...

I wish you LUCK !

Michelle

pause4poetry · Moderator

...some political ads may provide a good example ... just a thought

unforgiven2 · Tenant

Thanks Michelle,

I used it in a non general example but mainly focused on politics. She did point my mistake in a I have my degree you don't smart remark. I see that worked as I am still up trying to figure out why I was wrong. I am still trying to study and all this arguments,logic crap is for the birds. I can't wait till this is over so I can spend more time here.
Inductive, deductive..........I look and feel like I am headed in the right direction to bed finally at 4 a.m good night oh yeah muah happy valentines day!.
This is illogical how staying up all night and trying to make sense can be.

pause4poetry · Moderator

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This is illogical how staying up all night and trying to make sense can be.

Well for the first in awhile, I was in bed at 10:00, but then was awake by 2:30 a.m., Sad

not daylight yet so to me I am still on yesterday ... lol tomorrow comes after the sun rises ... how is that for logic ... yep think I am heading back to bed for a couple hours ... you think I need to? I have medical test at 9 a.m. "today" if I use real logic,...no food or drink besides water after midnight,so no coffee for me ... better I go bad to bed, so I don't have to hurt myself thinking about it ... Yes, I am a coffeeholic .... Have a Tea

Take Care ....

Michelle

unforgiven2 · Tenant

In her letter recieved today I am a little upset. Questions I asked are you going to work on staying sober so you can stop using and stay out of prison the next time? Maybe I will and maybe I wont I don't know becuae I can't make promises..... I just wonder now why she doesn't want to "work" on it is all and it leads me to circles and a sad realization of her honesty. I will keep writting her but I am at a loss for things to say right now.

They have drug classes last time she did eveyone in hope to achieve good time all the wrong reasons but atleast she attended them. This time she says for what?
Seems like I want to hear that she is realizing she needs to just needs to quit. This is so complicated that maybe I need to go back to step one what is that step anyways?

I don't know I love this song flake by Jack Jonson it reminds me of here. Patience and the Serenity prayer suit me right gonna go read again for the message it gives. Am I fighting a battle that is not mine? DO I just need to wake up and realize that I must love her no matter what she does to hurt herself? I do but I just want her to take care of herself and stop hurting people that have to deal with the jackle and hyde concept.

I know she said it's alright
But you can make it up next time
I know she knows it's not right
There ain't no use in lying
Maybe she thinks I know something
Maybe maybe she thinks its fine
Maybe she knows something I don't
I'm so, I'm so tired, I'm so tired of trying

It seems to me that maybe,
It pretty much always means no
So don't tell me you might just let it go
And often times we're lazy
It seems to stand in my way
Cause no one no not no one
Likes to be let down

I know she loves the sunrise
No longer sees it with her sleeping eyes
And I know that when she said she's gonna try
Well it might not work because of other ties and
I know she usually has some other ties
And I wouldn't want to break 'em, nah, I wouldn't want to break 'em
Maybe she'll help me to untie this but
Until then well, I'm gonna have to lie too

It seems to me that maybe
It pretty much always means no
So don't tell me you might just let it go
And often times we're lazy
It seems to stand in my way
Cause no one no not no one
Likes to be let down
It seems to me that maybe
It pretty much always means no
So don't tell me you might just let it go

The harder that you try baby, the further you'll fall
Even with all the money in the whole wide world
Please please please don't pass me
Please please please don't pass me
Please please please don't pass me by

Everything you know about me now baby you gonna have to change
You gonna have to call it by a brand new name
Please please please don't drag me
Please please please don't drag me
Please please please don't drag me down

Just like a tree down by the water baby I shall not move
Even after all the silly things you do
Please please please don't drag me
Please please please don't drag me
Please please please don't drag me down

keepitreal · Helping Hand IV

flaggin · Helping Hand III

steve wonders

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She did point my mistake in a I have my degree you don't smart remark. I see that worked as I am still up trying to figure out why I was wrong.

cause she's a b*tch!
now go get some sleep.

unforgiven2 · Tenant

Thanks flagging, It appears my teacher was right and I admit I was wrong but proved that her star student who she praised without realizing was wrong too. I feel justified now because ad hominem is only used against a person not a business.

Hope all is going ok for you. I finally have found myself in a peaceful mood to where I am open to reading more and silence in my life. My thought s can get the best of me. I am open to learning and trying to figure out where to go from here. I am at a loss for words tonight to everyone even myself. We all have problems, we all have pain, we all have worries, but hmm I have to go check my lotto numbers .......bbl

lucyb · Helping Hand I

Steve-
I just spent a few days with my 3 year old niece-what a handful, but what a lot of fun!! Oh, I remember my kids at that age too, quite a handful.
3 year olds just have boundless energy and incredible curiosity. They are constantly testing the waters to see how far they can push you. They don't know that they are NOT invincible and are NOT in control of the world.

So here's some motherly words of advice-
Pick and choose your battles carefully, don't sweat the small stuff like wearing 2 different shoes or funny outfits or sleeping with the light on.

Do set your limits and do follow thru with timeouts when rules are broken. Do not accept hitting, spitting, biting, etc.

Endless repititions of guidance and love are required for a 3 year old. Yeah, you'll get tired, but that's your job.

Most importantly, enjoy him. This is a great, fun age. Look at the world thru his eyes, he has a much less tainted view of things. Forget doing some of the daily grind, spend the time hanging out playing Candyland or reading books with him. Cherish this time, you only get it once with him.

Overactive 3 year olds thrive on creative activities so have plenty of paper, crayons, blocks, magnets, etc. available.

Have fun Steve.
Lucy

pause4poetry · Moderator

Don't forget the Play-Doh, of course you have to stay close, or no telling where you will find it ... lol and yes it taste lousy ... but my 3 year old Grandaughter loves Ply doh time with Gramdma!!!

Michelle

unforgiven2 · Tenant

Thank you Lucy,

I been thinking about you and wondering if you had a chance to travel..
I hope you been doing ok I am a bit behind with things here I have been feeling pressure of daily living.

My son he is my life and I wish me and his mom could get back together but things don't always go like I wish it would. Time..the never ending calamities and hurt.

He brings sunshine and laughter, stress and tears would I change anything about him. No never, I will love him till my last day and will always worry about him when he is all grown up even more then I do today. I hope he never makes the mistakes I have, or mistakes that could harm him. If he falls I will try to catch him. I hope he learns that life can be rewarding and the hieght of his dreams is all within reach. I hope the path he choose will be bright and darkeness will be far from his sight. I hope the best for him he brought the best to one once lost soul who never got it right until he came into my life. I learned what true living is when his eyes looked into mine the very first time. I pray my son will have a good life and I can make some of that possible every day and night - Steve A.

Thanks for the advice I have came to realize a lot thank you both I replied to you Michell at your home. I think the the world of you both I only hope to be a better father and really need to like you have said enjoy this time. I will be working on these things more and more.

Hope to hear from you more I realize you probably have a lot going on. I worry about you and your family too as you have became someone I treasure.

keepitreal · Helping Hand IV