I'm fed up with lies!!!! But I'm finding the absurdity of some of the lies I've been told somewhat hilarious at the moment!!! Anyway....I thought it would be good to have a thread about lying...since it is such a huge part of our lives...and maybe we will become great lie detectors through the process....My mood has got the best of me tonight...and so I bring you the SEX PISTOLS
Lie lie lie lie liar you lie lie lie lie
Tell me why tell me why
Why d'you have to lie
Should've realised that
Should've told the truth
Should've realised
You know what I'll do
You're in suspension
You're a liar
Now I wanna know know know know
I wanna know why you never
Look me in the face
Broke a confidence just to please
Your ego should've realised
You know what I know
You're in suspension
You're a liar
I know where you go everybody you know
I know everything that do or say
So when you tell lies
I'll always be in your way
I'm nobody's fool and I know all
'Cos I know what I know
You're in suspension you're a liar
You're a liar you're a liar
Lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie
Lie lie lie lie liar you lie lie lie lie
I think you're funny you're funny ha ha
I don't need it don't need your blah blah
Should've realised I know what you are
You're in suspension you're in suspension
You're in suspension you're a liar
You're a liar you're a liar
Lie lie
My number one lie of the evening. I had to cancel, because my "friend" needs help towing the truck out of the driveway because suddenly the landlord is so upset about it...is really riding me. It's been there one whole day...with so much frost on it..Yeah right!!!!!....there is a space heater in it...one of the old ones that doesn't turn off when it falls over...wow the truck could blow up!!!!! So, I have to cancel....because...well, calling a tow truck....well that would just make too much sense....oh, too expensive??? No money left for a hit???? Oh no, my friend isn't here, he had to go buy a tow bar...and then we have to install it and....it just is going to take a long time...and so...I just have to cancel. Oh no...he really needs me to help with this...because well I'm the only one who can do it...and my landlord is really riding me...Hmmmm Can't put it in neutral and roll it across the street so mr. landlord will be happy? PLEASE!!!! LIAR!!!!!LIAR!!!!!!!! Pants on Fire!!!!
Because, I am not going to contribute to his addiction in anyway, shape or form....
Talk about resourceful .....
Imagine this....
It is brought to my attention that our video account has X BOX games well over due, that’s funny, we don’t have an X BOX.....
“Jordan ( age 14), could you come here.”
“Jordan, I told you last week that Family video called and said you had games due back and asked that you take care of it, did you ? “
“Yes Mom, I did not have any games out and I called to tell them, I am sorry I forgot to tell you,
they said there were 3 X BOX games out and I told them, I did not have an X Box. Maybe, Brodie did he has an X Box. ( Brodie is a friend of my middle son’s that practically lives here at times.) I said hmmmm I will have to see about that and began to tell Jordan that until the late fees were paid for the missing, unknown rentals, along with a portion of fees Jordan himself had accumulated in not being on task that there would be no more rentals period !, ... and yes I was angry. Like I need an extra bill in my name ....
Darell pulled me aside and privately me told me that he had rented the games ... not wanting to see Jordan pay for something that he was not totally responsible for as his fee was minimal .. He doesn’t have an X BOX either....then I knew ....... I knew before he told me ....
He admitted to using the games as a way to have something to grace a dealer with in exchange for .... Guess What ? Yep ....you got it !!! Only thing is the dealer that doesn’t give a *censored sh_t of course never returned them !!!!! He promised he would take care of it, but my instincts told me that wasn’t good enough ... My name, my account that I failed to take him off ...WHY?
...who would have thought .... he doesn’t even like to watch movies and does not play video games .... , Darell’s daughter was also here visiting, after she left, I told him that he could leave and not to call, or return here, not so much as a visit until he had righted the situation, whether that be returning the games and paying the $40.00 due in fees, which will be 47.50 tomorrow and 55.00 on and on , or simply to go in and have them separate the account, so that his name carry the burden of his choices not mine, and I meant it. I told him if it was not fixed
he could leave and not return till it was. If he wanted to delay taking care of this he could take his dog too, that I have been caring for out of respect for the dog as she is not welcomed at Darell’s parent’s home. I say, let them deal with it !!! Well he left with his dog by his side.
He clearly knows that finding that I had somehow contributed in anyway direct, or indirect would totally send me into a high speed come apart, and it did. Yes, I am glad he told me, because now I do not have to play detective to save my a#s from further debt. Tomorrow, I will call Family Video with Darell’s Mom’s # and they can collect from him and hammer their phone instead of mine.
So there we have, somewhere there is someone that I do not know but despise with all that I am .... playing video games while they smoke and sell crack and their party games are compliments of me.... The very people I loathe, got me again. Why, because I let them ...Who would have thought ......
...... is this close to anything that you had in mind Jenni?
you are sooooo Not alone ....
_________________ Positives create better results then Negatives
Lies, deciet...I think it has value to post these stories...because for those who are new to this they are food for thought and good lessons to learn before you gotta go there yourself. I"m not real lie oriented either, so detection of lies is something that I've been challenged with. I'm getting better at it....but it aint easy when it never occurs to you to lie...and are just not used to having it in your life. Not doing that anymore.
Were caught in a trap
I cant walk out
Because I love you too much baby
Why cant you see
What youre doing to me
When (I don't believe a word you say) you dont believe a word I say?
We cant go on together
With suspicious minds
And we cant build our dreams
On suspicious minds
So, if an old friend (You)I know
Drops by to say hello
Would (You) I still see suspicion in (my) your eyes?
Here we go again
Asking where (You've) Ive been
You cant see these tears are real
Im crying
We cant go on together
With suspicious minds
And be cant build our dreams
On suspicious minds
Oh let our love survive
Or dry the tears from your eyes
Lets dont let a good thing die (hmmmm)
When honey, you know
Ive never lied to you
Mmm yeah, yeah (RIGHT!!!)
Boy. They must have worked all night trying to get that truck out of the driveway....unfortunately I'm guessing....too busy getting loaded to work on it. It's still there. I can't wait to hear the rest of this story. Liar Liar Pants on Fire!! Hehe
Maybe the one thing that I hate about myself in all this is that I spent so much time ignoring my "little voice". How many times did I hear "I paid that bill, I don't know why they're calling" etc. and KNOW what was going on. I just found it easier to believe what he was saying. Never again.
Let's see some of the best...
"I bounced a $50.00 check accidentally 6 months ago and the bank has charged us $3,000.00 in fees. It's all taken care of now. They said nevermind."
"I don't know why everyone at work said I haven't been there all week. You see me leave the house don't you?"
"I don't know why the priest said they don't have AA meetings at his church, I go to one there everyday."
This could go on for ever, but I will try to weed out the best and write back.
Al
Boy. They must have worked all night trying to get that truck out of the driveway....unfortunately I'm guessing....too busy getting loaded to work on it. It's still there. I can't wait to hear the rest of this story. Liar Liar Pants on Fire!! Hehe
Hmmmm,
It would seem, your not as detatched
as you'd like to think...huh.
Jenni,
If you know it's a lie,
what exactly are you upset about?
Because you'd rather
him hurt you with the truth,
then hurt you with a lie.....or
Cause you keep dealing with him??
Come on now...
I'm starting to wonder if
you & Nikki suffer from Barbie Doll mentality.
Meaning that,
somehow your apperances make yous feel,
your lucky yous have a bf at all.
I really can not comprehend why,
two women who are able to make it on their own,
pick up the slack for 2 guys
who make them so unhappy and angry,
all in the name of love,....
AND THAT LOVE ISN'T EVEN BEING RETURNED.
OMG...It drives me crazy...
It's not like there's a shortage of men.
ESPECIALLY where you live Jenni.
what's the ratio...like 10 to 1.
Oye Vay you two.
_________________ Does your train of thought have a caboose?
Well I would agree with Lynn,Theres more than one fish in the sea or another bus comming along in 10mins so why waste your time with losers.Life is too short to go through it on a wim that he might or might not overcome his addiction.I can see a person wasting their time if they been married and had a life together before their spouse fell into addictin,but these are just boyfriends.wake up smell the coffee and move on.
Diane
"I didn't know that open container of beer was in the car I just drove off the road and rolled 3 times. It must have been there from when I slept in the car last week. My blood alcohol content is 1.8?"
Because, I am not going to contribute to his addiction in anyway, shape or form....
Talk about resourceful .....
Imagine this....
It is brought to my attention that our video account has X BOX games well over due, that’s funny, we don’t have an X BOX.....
“Jordan ( age 14), could you come here.”
“Jordan, I told you last week that Family video called and said you had games due back and asked that you take care of it, did you ? “
“Yes Mom, I did not have any games out and I called to tell them, I am sorry I forgot to tell you,
they said there were 3 X BOX games out and I told them, I did not have an X Box. Maybe, Brodie did he has an X Box. ( Brodie is a friend of my middle son’s that practically lives here at times.) I said hmmmm I will have to see about that and began to tell Jordan that until the late fees were paid for the missing, unknown rentals, along with a portion of fees Jordan himself had accumulated in not being on task that there would be no more rentals period !, ... and yes I was angry. Like I need an extra bill in my name ....
Darell pulled me aside and privately me told me that he had rented the games ... not wanting to see Jordan pay for something that he was not totally responsible for as his fee was minimal .. He doesn’t have an X BOX either....then I knew ....... I knew before he told me ....
He admitted to using the games as a way to have something to grace a dealer with in exchange for .... Guess What ? Yep ....you got it !!! Only thing is the dealer that doesn’t give a *censored sh_t of course never returned them !!!!! He promised he would take care of it, but my instincts told me that wasn’t good enough ... My name, my account that I failed to take him off ...WHY?
...who would have thought .... he doesn’t even like to watch movies and does not play video games .... , Darell’s daughter was also here visiting, after she left, I told him that he could leave and not to call, or return here, not so much as a visit until he had righted the situation, whether that be returning the games and paying the $40.00 due in fees, which will be 47.50 tomorrow and 55.00 on and on , or simply to go in and have them separate the account, so that his name carry the burden of his choices not mine, and I meant it. I told him if it was not fixed
he could leave and not return till it was. If he wanted to delay taking care of this he could take his dog too, that I have been caring for out of respect for the dog as she is not welcomed at Darell’s parent’s home. I say, let them deal with it !!! Well he left with his dog by his side.
He clearly knows that finding that I had somehow contributed in anyway direct, or indirect would totally send me into a high speed come apart, and it did. Yes, I am glad he told me, because now I do not have to play detective to save my a#s from further debt. Tomorrow, I will call Family Video with Darell’s Mom’s # and they can collect from him and hammer their phone instead of mine.
So there we have, somewhere there is someone that I do not know but despise with all that I am .... playing video games while they smoke and sell crack and their party games are compliments of me.... The very people I loathe, got me again. Why, because I let them ...Who would have thought ......
...... is this close to anything that you had in mind Jenni?
you are sooooo Not alone ....
You know what Michelle,
I gotta give him credit
for coming clean with you right away...
instead of being exposed anyway, after a pack of lies.
_________________ Does your train of thought have a caboose?
Well you can tell ev'ryone I'm a down disgrace
Drag my name all over the place.
I don't care anymore.
You can tell ev'rybody 'bout the state I'm in
You won't catch me crying 'cos I just can't win.
I don't care anymore I don't care anymore
I don't care what you say
I don't play the same games you play.
'Cos I've been talking to the people that you call your friends
And it seems to me there's a means to and end.
They don't care anymore.
And as for me I can sit here and bide my time
I got nothing to lose if I speak my mind.
I don't care anymore I don't care no more
I don't care what you say
We never played by the same rules anyway.
I won't be there anymore
Get out of my way
Let me by
I got better things to do with my time
I don't care anymore I don't care anymore
I don't care anymore I don't care anymore
Well, I don't care now what you say
'Cos ev'ry day I'm feeling fine with myself
And I don't care now what you say
Hey I'll do alright by myself
'Cos I know.
'Cos I remember all the times I tried so hard
And you laughed in my face 'cos you held all the cards.
I don't care anymore.
And I really ain't bothered what you think of me
'Cos all I want of you is just a let me be.
I don't care anymore D'you hear? I don't care no more
I don't care what you say
I never did believe you much anyway.
I won't be there no more
So get out of my way.
Let me by
I got better things to do with my time
I don't care anymore
D'you hear? I don't care anymore
I don't care no more
You listening? I don't care no more
No more!
You know I don't care no more!
_________________ Does your train of thought have a caboose?
Said I was detaching/ It's a process. Know I'm not there yet...and know it is ridiculous.
Yes, I would rather him just tell me the truth instead of lying. Lying pisses me off. I would rather have him say. I'm cancelling our plans so I can go use tonight. How refreshing would that be? Of course I wouldn't want him to do that, but ...I got no control over that. I'd rather have him be honest and communicate about it. He is lying to me so he doesn't have to deal with own feeling/etc. about his using. I don't hassle him because he uses anymore.. No point in that. He will stop when he is ready. I hassle him to point out to him his lack of consideration for others, which maybe he doesn't care about...but I think it is important to confront him about it...and hold him accountable. Perhaps through continually confronting him about, he will get to the point where Darell was...admitting his deceit....or just learning to communicate about things as an alternative to lying etc. Doesn't really hurt me (I'm laughin about it now) as much as it hurts him in the long run.
Loser (not my words) perhaps....but there are lots of great people on here, who were once where he is at...not able or willing to find a way out...and while it is all up to him, and I shouldn't put myself through this crap...or wish it on anyone else...It has been my choice...I'm well aware...and not whining. I'm in this situation because I choose to be...but that doesn't mean I can't be frustrated...or vent...or laugh or learn....I am growing...I am detaching however slowly...and I think this is valuable discussion.
Thanks for your continuuing support and encouragement. Love ya lots. Hope this discussion helps someone else too.
I hassle him to point out to him his lack of consideration for others, which maybe he doesn't care about...but I think it is important to confront him about it...and hold him accountable. Perhaps through continually confronting him about, he will get to the point where Darell was...admitting his deceit....or just learning to communicate about things as an alternative to lying etc.
And this IS why he does lie to you.
He doesn't want to hear it....period.
And, IMHO,
the more you do continue confronting him
or pointing out his lack of consideration,
which is a direct result of his using,
and just another way to *hassle* him about using,
he won't need to lie to you,
because he's just gonna start avoiding you...period.
Just as you have every right to get frustrated,
He has every right to use,
You both choose to stay and deal with it
you choose to confront and voice
he chooses to avoid and lie
Darell chose to come clean right away, IMO
because Michelle has been consistant
in what she will no longer contribute to
or no longer deal with...lies being one of them.
He can be honest with her about his using
because she doesn't make it her mission anymore
to get him to clean up his act. She knows she can't.
_________________ Does your train of thought have a caboose?
Exactly. We both choose to stay and deal with it. He hasn't gone and neither have I. How has Michelle been consistent? Has she told him that she will not accept lying...and prefer that he be honest. That's my point. I've always been honest with him about his behavior with respect to his consideration for me. Even before I knew he was an addict. I have been consistent...and continue to be. I have always confronted him, when the stories he has told have not added up. If he wants to associate that with his using that's his baggage...not mine. I started doing it before I knew he had a problem crack.
Sounds to me like she does try to get him to clean up his act by holding him accountable for what he does...or doesn't do. You don't get what you don't ask for. That's all i'm doing.
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Posted:Dec 01, 2006 - 01:28 AM
you are sooooo Not alone ....
